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President Punxsutawney Phil
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« on: March 14, 2024, 08:14:47 PM »

LOL!




Tom Cotton is the worst.
Respectfully, Tom Cotton can go to hell.
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President Punxsutawney Phil
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« Reply #1 on: April 20, 2024, 02:05:49 PM »

The correct answer is to regulate the algorithim and the content.

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Essentially, all the supposed harms of this app could be addressed by regulation that gives auditing and oversight of the algorithm, data, to US officials and third parties, as well as adding data privacy requirements and encouraging use of features like parent mode that are within First Amendment allowances.

I’m sure this would be enthusiastically welcomed by American social media companies.

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Further, on the same day the House Energy & Commerce Committee passes this bill 50-0, they tabled a bill that would have stopped data brokers from selling Americans' data. If they are s concerned about protecting our data, why would they do that? Not to speak of the fact that while they are adamant about the equivalent of the death penalty for TikTok, they have zero concern for enacting any regulation that would address the harms of social media in general.


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The bolded bit is flippant enough about the difference between a human life and a f**king phone app that it almost makes me think there's something to the crass "kids these days" framing here. Not great!

It was a bad turn of the phrase.

Speaking of human life, Congress has done almost nothing for 20 years as mass shooters actually take away the lives of children in our schools, it does nothing about a health care system that has higher per capita spending but worse outcomes in life expectancy that other OECD countries with lower per capita income than us, and higher rates of treatable illness, and chronic conditions, and it does not seem to be troubled that the president sent over 100 arms shipments to Israel in its war that has cost 30,000 Gazan lives in the past six months alone. It does not want to act to avert climate change that is estimated to cost over 250,000 lives per year.

So if the perceived flippancy based on bad wording one time of me, one guy posting on an Internet forum who has no power, who is 40 years old and not even a part of Gen Z, is "almost" enough to dismiss an entire generation who I am not even a part of, what makes you think our Congress, which actually has power and is substantively flippant year after year about human life, should be trusted to be able to tell us which apps we can express ourselves on? This is not just about a "f**king phone app", it is much deeper than that, when considering implications of the government taking this power for themselves.
This is an awful government power grab and I agree wholeheartedly with you that it's bad.
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President Punxsutawney Phil
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« Reply #2 on: April 28, 2024, 08:05:45 PM »

Apprently what makes Tiktok so valuable is its algorthium which recommends videos. Its what makes it so addicting. Without it, Tiktok isn't Tiktok

Bytedance is willing to sell the app, not the algorthium. It uses the algorthium for other apps it owns. Even if it wanted to, Bytedance is not allowed to sell the algorthium because of Chinese copyright laws

To remove the software from the app is apprently too much trouble for Bytedance. Better to shut down US operations. And its unlikely any US company or group of investors will pony up the cash AND figure out a close enough algorthium.
I don't blame ByteDance for this situation. If anything I'd sooner blame the US govt.
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